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Fahrenheit 9/11

So earlier, I checked out F9/11 with Dave. Even though I'm no great fan of Moore or his style of documentary (seems more like shockumentary half the time) I was intrigued to see that he seems to have learned from Bowling for Columbine (or perhaps he just had more ammunition from less bright people) and I have to give him credit for crafting a film that makes you think. Dave has mentioned how it's unlikely that anyone will change their mind after seeing this movie, but we both think that it's possible that some undecided folks may have to put some thought into the upcoming elections.

F9/11 is an odd movie. It's not a pretty film. It has some truly gruesome images (made all the more gruesome for being real) and it asks some really unpleasant questions. The thing realy struck me after watching is that it was suddenly easy to appreciate what it must have been like to be a normal German citizen after WWII. Two hours of seeing our leaders under a very unflattering microscope while simultaneously being bombarded by the effects of their decisions and their greed is pretty hard to take.

I think it's definitely a movie to check out regardless of your politics just to make you look more closely at the folks in power now and in the future. After all who else do they answer to if not us? They've appointed themselves the protectors of truth, justice, and the American way and, to borrow from a different Moore, who watches the watchers?

Those who have seen the movie will appreciate the following question for the ages:

"Under what circumstances could it possibly seem like a good idea to go and touch the erect penis of a dead enemy soldier (in front of a running camera no less)?"

Not to be overly flippant, but that was just one of many random bits that stuck out as seriously fucked up. It really drove home the point that many of our soldiers are really practically kids. In some cases we have Beavis and Butthead running around a foreign country blasting "The roof is on fire" inside their tanks and acting like they're inside of a great video gam. Even though that though I can't really fault them, They're kids and their commander in chief avoided serving altogether and seems to fancy himself quite the tough cowboy. We're taking kids who only know how to play soldier and making them into killers. It's not really surprising that they act the way they do. They have to joke around about what they're doing otherwise they'd likely go insane. This is the modern definition of catch-22. They are in a horrible situation and they have to dehumanize their enemy to be able to do their job but once they do that they lose the normal human defenses which make us reluctant to destroy another human being.

Also, regardless of what your politics are, I think it's disturbing to see our illustrious leaders talking about a weak and powerless Iraq in early 2001 and then playing up just how dangerous and unstable it was two short years later. Which are we to believe? Apparently in 2001 they knew what the real situation was (real as defined by what we found once we actually went in) and yet with hardly a second thought they turned around and painted a picture of a monster with his finger on the button to a vast machine of horrible weapons. What kind of people can do that?

I could (and may yet) go on about this, but I'm pretty wiped out. There is one thing that I'm extremely curious about. I have a broad question for anyone who happens to read this (and can answer without flaming, I really am curious about the answer). If you're conservative and/or Pro-Bush and you've seen the movie, what is your response? I mean I know Moore is certainly not Mr. Impartiality, but how do you rebuke everything in the movie? I really want to know, because if even half of what he brings up is true, he paints a picture of a pretty bleak, depressing and distressing situation here in the US. I'm not even talking about a great and evil conspiracy, just a bunch of greedy people with little to no regard for human life (especially if those humans happen to look or believe differently than they do). They just seem to be out to make an obscene amount of money and heaven help anyone who gets in their way.

I may not be fond of Moore, but at a conservative estimate, 3/4 of what I saw in his movie is stuff that I've seen bits and pieces of during the last 4 years, his editing is certainly fascinating, but not all that much of the movie is news. So what gives? How can someone discount everything he brings up and support our current "leaders"?

Comments

I agree with all that you observed about the movie. Yup.
this movie has managed to drive home just how irresponsible he is with regards to iraq & the "war on terror". downright frightening that he has control over anybody at all!

on my way out i remembered being extra pissed off at him for a variety of other things that he did in his first days (when he wasn't on vacation, i guess) such as the kyoto treaty and women's rights... i think bush is lucky my short term memory is so poor.

how come none of the senators signed the representatives' complaints at the beginning, when they were going over the election of 2000? i got extra pissed when i saw carrie meeks as one of the reps. she's now a senator, but back then she was the representative (democrat) of miami, ie dade county-- one of the larger ones in florida-- and where i'm from.